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Timestamped transcript 00:00 With regard to the here, I'm gonna tell you what the most interesting thing it is and you tell me if you felt the same00:05 So we know that there was a hearing regarding00:09 Basically getting rid of tish James as the special prosecutor00:13 She was appointed by New York governor Kathy Huckle the reason why one00:19 One here's the interesting part of the Cornell seven00:22 filed a motion to00:24 basically get rid of her or have somebody else00:28 and more neutral, special prosecutor appointed.00:32 Tell them what she did.00:33 Because of comments, comments that Tish James made,00:36 I mean, Kathy Hochel made her own comments,00:38 but Tish James made some comments00:40 that really indicated objectively,00:43 that you can't even,00:44 you can't interpret them any other way,00:46 that she is biased.00:48 She called the accuser a survivor, one example.00:53 And I think she said that she shouldn't have been forced00:55 to endure, would she endure?00:58 Yeah, you know, John, that is anyone01:00 who's being intellectually honest,01:01 even those who believe these guys committed rape01:04 would have to agree with Judge Farrell's question01:07 during the hearing when he asked, quote,01:10 you would agree with me that it's not proper01:12 for a prosecutor to make those statements, right?01:15 He asked it numerous times.01:17 And I've ranted on this show about that.01:19 I am, I don't know what happened.01:21 I really don't.01:22 But I need an independent investigation01:25 that's not from someone who's already01:26 aligned themselves with the victim01:28 and eliminated the defense's theory01:31 that this could have been consensual.01:34 True.01:35 And from what we know that's out in the public sphere,01:40 there is some evidence that it was consensual,01:43 but I digress it.01:44 Here's the other interesting thing01:46 that this Judge Judge Farrell did.01:48 So one of the seven filed this motion.01:50 Now, when you have multiple defendants in any case, if one person sort of leads the01:55 charge, whatever ruling would affect the other party.01:59 So if you agree with that motion, and you're one of the other six, you kind of sit back,02:05 all right?02:06 I didn't have to do the work.02:07 They do the work.02:08 But Judge Ferrell said, hang on a second.02:09 How come you're the only guy up here?02:11 How come nobody else has filed this motion along with you?02:14 Right, right.02:15 Right?02:16 What are we going to have?02:17 her on your case, but the others will still have her.02:21 So we're gonna have two prosecutors.02:23 These are legitimate questions, yes?02:25 Yes, but it would be very rare02:28 to have multiple prosecutors on one case.02:31 I don't know if I've ever seen that happen.02:34 Multiple special prosecutors, right?02:36 I don't think I've seen that happen.02:37 But here's what I thought.02:38 I'm like, well, maybe Judge Farrell should get credit02:41 because what if, what if, hypothetically,02:44 these guys do get indicted for something.02:47 Oh, you think?02:48 As if it's even not, it's gonna happen.02:52 We know that that's what justice means02:53 to this governor and Leticia James.02:55 I hate to say it.02:57 But then what if, Mark,02:59 what if some of these defendants moved for severance?03:03 Now you don't have them all together.03:07 And maybe that was a little foreshadowing by this judge.03:12 deep. That is that is very ocean deep, Johnna. I don't know that that was the plan. I just think03:20 maybe the others probably agreed with my analysis and that is while it's completely unfair in the03:27 court of public opinion for Leticia James to remain on this case and she should have already03:31 taken a step back to give the image of of a fair neutral hearing. The issue isn't ripe yet.03:39 By that, I mean, the harm hasn't happened legally.03:45 If Letitia James decides not to file charges03:49 against certain ones or all of them,03:52 then the judge shouldn't have to rule at this time.03:55 It's not right yet.03:57 You wait until the harm occurs,03:59 and then you say, okay, it's improper.04:02 And that's not what I would wanna do if this is my boy,04:05 but I think that's how the judge is gonna rule.04:07 because you don't want the harm to occur.04:09 I think part of the fear is that, as you just said,04:12 she will indict for something.04:14 You can indict at a ham sandwich.04:16 But now we're talking.04:17 It's like just to jump ahead with the Lindsey Clancy04:20 gag order, it's like, oh, you think that his comments04:24 in the future might.04:26 Well, it's not really ripe yet.04:29 There's no harm just yet.04:31 You've got a woman who says she can be fair.04:34 I mean, this is the legal analysis,04:36 and she hasn't ruled yet.04:38 And I would love for her to be gone,04:41 but who do you think that hurts the sole defendants position,04:47 the one that's moving to recuse her as a prosecutor04:51 that the others didn't join in?04:54 No, I don't think it hurts him,04:57 except that the judge is giving the others time to join in.05:01 So it's delaying the ruling, perhaps just a little bit.05:06 So but I don't think at the end of the day, it will hurt him.05:09 I think he has legitimate reason.05:10 And everybody has legitimate reason to want to get rid of her,05:13 whether they actually move for that or not is going to be completely up05:17 to each individual defendant.05:19 But she's not the only one who's who's bias.05:21 And while we still have a few minutes here, I do want to play.05:25 If you don't mind. So Netflix. Yes.05:28 What do they call it?05:29 They're calling it an insta doc.05:31 I've never heard of it.05:32 Insta doc.05:32 I guess that's just a documentary that's put together really fast.05:36 Yeah, sounds like it.05:37 Yeah, yeah, because it was pretty quick.05:39 It's only like a one-part documentary,05:42 30-something minutes maybe, you know, it wasn't.05:45 It was kind of cashing in on this scenario for right now.05:49 Cashing in as if these guys have been tried and convicted05:53 and they haven't even been charged with any crime yet.05:56 You got to remember the only thing that's out there so far06:00 is a civil complaint for money damages, OK?06:04 But just in case you're wondering06:06 whether the governor of New York who appointed Tish James,06:09 the special prosecutor, also might have some bias,06:12 can we please play?06:15 It's not two and three.06:16 Yeah, it's not two and three.06:18 Yeah.06:19 Let's do that.06:22 Allegedly, it became unconcential as more brothers06:26 were invited upstairs.06:29 The district attorney said criminal charges06:31 weren't pursued because the evidence06:33 was insufficient to constitute sexual assault.06:39 My first reaction was,06:41 how disgusting.06:44 This institution was gonna fulfill her dream,06:47 and instead it became her nightmare.06:48 I told Jane Doe, I want to write a story.06:52 You never know what is going to ignite something.06:57 Our administration can't only be responding now07:01 because they're under the pressure of national news.07:04 None of us expected it to be like this.07:07 This case, the scale of this, the number of people involved07:11 and the repugnancy of her allegations07:14 would have drawn you to the local police department07:17 fairly quickly.07:19 Campus police, technically, they are07:21 depotized by the local police to function07:24 as a policing organization on a campus.07:26 But one can very quickly see that there could be a conflict07:30 because you're also protecting the reputation07:33 of your boss, the university.07:36 Is it your belief that Cornell's police07:39 was influenced by conflict of interest in this case?07:42 No, I have no evidence of that.07:43 And I'm not saying that that was necessarily the case.07:46 But in a situation like this, you07:48 want to make sure that people believe in the process.07:51 I called the university president07:54 and said I want to have an independent investigation.07:57 I want outside counsel to look at all the actions08:00 of the university.08:01 When the Tompkins County District Attorney announced that he was reopening the case, he08:07 pointed to Jane Doe's statement and said it did not establish that a crime had occurred.08:13 But new reporting raises serious questions about the information his office relied upon08:18 when it made that decision.08:20 And that's why I believe this case demands a special prosecutor who will provide a08:25 fresh and thorough review of all the facts, including the information that has recently08:30 come to life. Prove to me and the public and the campus and this young woman that everything08:37 you did was correct.08:40 John, I am so offended by so many things that she said. Okay, first and foremost, when she08:47 heard that the prosecutor didn't pick up any charges, didn't file any charges, her08:54 first and only thought process was just how corrupt, how horrible, how unfortunate, whatever09:00 word she wants to use. Okay, not I don't know. I'm not a09:05 prosecutor. I didn't get my hands dirty on this one. Maybe I09:08 should talk to them and see why they don't have proof beyond09:11 it to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt. That's the09:13 first thing. And then the second thing is how effing09:16 hypocritical of her to suggest the campus police. Thank09:20 you. Take that one. Go. I think you share the same.09:23 All right. So she comes out on this Insta doc and says,09:26 Oh, well, you know, we should we should assume that09:29 that there's a conflict of interest09:30 because the campus police work for the campus09:33 and therefore they wanna make their boss,09:36 i.e. the president of the campus, look good.09:39 That's a conflict of interest.09:41 But then, Mark, who does she appoint as special prosecutor?09:47 It's ridiculous.09:48 Since James worked for Cathy Hockel,09:51 she would wanna make her boss look good.09:53 Cathy Hockel wants somebody who's gonna make09:56 Kathy Hockel looked good.09:58 Oh my God, can she like add both sides of her mouth?10:02 Finally, not that we needed confirmation.10:05 We assume she's a bright, savvy politician,10:07 so she knows about the image of impropriety.10:10 But here she's laying it out in this documentary10:13 that the campus police gives the image of impropriety10:17 because they could be covering for their bosses.10:19 Similarly, you're appointing Leticia James.10:22 It is so parallel that she should immediately10:26 get anybody else, I joked on one show, pick carrot top.10:30 At least he hasn't prejudged the case.10:33 Here's how most people find out10:34 their Medicare plan changed.10:36 They don't get a phone call.10:37 The notice comes in the mail,10:39 in an envelope that almost nobody opens.10:41 They walk up to the pharmacy counter in January10:44 and the price is different.10:45 Medicare plans change every year10:47 and some go away entirely.10:49 For most people, the window to make changes10:50 closes December 7th, and after that, they are locked in for the year.10:55 This is why you need to know about the independent Medicare advisors at Chapter.10:59 Not a plan, not an insurance company.11:01 They're the only Medicare advisors that compare every plan nationwide, so Chapter can put11:06 your prescriptions and your doctors against every option you've got for 2027.11:11 If you're on the right plan, they will tell you.11:13 If you're not, they will help you switch.11:14 So do it today.11:15 Don't wait until you hit the deadline or miss it.11:19 chapter at 910-375-5179. 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